Section 75 Employer Debt in Non-Associated Multi-Employer Defined Benefit Pension Schemes
26 May 2015
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Employer Debt in Non-Associated Multi-Employer Schemes
Question 3.1 – if we were to make any changes, should we exclude associated multi-employer schemes / limit the provisions to multi-employer schemes? Changes should be made purely in relation to non-associated multi-employer schemes. Question 3.2 – if we were to exclude associated schemes / limit the provisions to non-associated schemes, how could we best achieve this? The CFG/NAPF working party made proposals for changes to the Section 75 regulations which would deal with this and we are supportive of those proposals.Stakeholder views
Question 4.1 – has your organisation had any experience with the S75 debt regime as it applies to non-associated multi-employer defined benefit schemes? Yes. SCVO is member of The Pension Trust Scottish Voluntary Sector Pension Scheme and Growth Plan Scheme. Many of SCVO members are also members of these and other such schemes Question 4.2 – do you think that the employer debt regime for these schemes needs to be changed, or does it work as it currently stands? It does not work and needs to be changed. Question 4.3 – what data do you have that might support your answer to questions 4.1 – 4.2? No data to present.Existing easements designed to help employers manage employer debt
Question 5.1 – has your organisation had experience of these easements? How often have they been used? It has not and our understanding is that withdrawal arrangements and apportionment arrangements have rarely been used in non-associated MEDBPS. Question 5.2 – how effective are the easements: For Schemes / For Employers? They remain complex and costly to implement and often do not deal with the need to cease future accrual which is usually a primary requirement as part of a corporate transaction. Question 5.3 – are there any weaknesses or problems with the current methods of managing employer debt? Yes, as per comments above. Question 5.4 – could we make the easements easier to understand and to use? Potentially, yes. However the easements fail to deal with the primary issues. Question 5.5 – what data do you have that might support your answer to questions 5.1 – 5.4? No data to present.Other suggested easements
Question 6.1 – do the current employer debt provisions for multi-employer schemes need to be amended, or could better use be made of the existing easements to manage any problems employers or schemes may face? The debt provisions need to be amended for non associated employers. The easements do not deal with the automatic S75 debt trigger or provide the necessary flexibility required to deal with long term debt funding and trustee flexibility. Question 6.2 – what data do you have that might support your answer to question 6.1? No data to present Question 6.3 – should DWP support and encourage greater flexibility regarding debt repayment plans? The issue is that for many participants flexibility around the repayment of a cessation debt does not go far enough and does not deal with the timing issue over the settlement. In a stand alone scheme an employer may take 15-20 years to meet the technical provision deficit and then funding the cessation debt may take a further 15-20 years. That would mean that the cessation debt amount has a repayment term of 30+ years. The cessation debt flexibility would need to go beyond just having trustees impose the debt and lengthen the repayment term but also provide the flexibility not to trigger the cessation debt so that employers may have more flexibility around the timing of the cessation debt calculation. This would need to look more like the standalone or segmented funding flexibilities. Question 6.4 – how could any repayment plan recognise and balance the needs of employers and the scheme? This is effectively what happens in all other schemes. There needs to be a balance between the security of individual member’s benefits and a recognition that a strong employer provides security for benefits so contributions need to be affordable. We see no difference, therefore, between adopting the same approach which works for stand alone and segmented arrangements with MEDBPS. Question 6.5 – would a longer timescale increase the risk of default? Are there ways that this risk could be mitigated? The longer the timescale the greater the risk of default; however this must be offset against potentially lower liabilities on default given the ability to cease future accrual, the likelihood of higher deficit contributions as future service contributions are re-directed in to past service deficit repayments, and the likelihood of a greater number of participants being able to settle the ultimate debt, which would not be the case with future accruals. Question 6.6 – what data do you have that might support your answer to questions 6.3 – 6.5? Our membership, and feedback of SCVO’s members supports answers to 6.3 – 6.5 Question 6.7 – what could the consequences and risks of making this change be for:- The Scheme? – Schemes could ensure that only those employers who actually wished to accrue further DB liabilities and could afford to do so were continuing to build future service benefits. Schemes could also ensure that the focus of contributions was on meeting the past service liabilities rather than on accruing further liabilities and could ensure that the cross contamination risk among employers was minimised.
- The employer? – Employers who have recognised the unsuitability of further DB accrual will be able to deal with the issue. They will also be able to simplify and rationalise the benefit provision they offer. In the round we can only see such a change having a positive impact.
- Other employers in the scheme? – Employers who have gone ‘beyond the point of no return’ within schemes represent a significant risk to other employers in MEDBPS. There is no incentive for them to effectively manage their liabilities and they know that at some point these will be picked up by other employers or the PPF. This has the potential to lead to reckless behaviour.
- Members of the scheme? – With no further enforced accrual, contributions can be focussed on meeting past service obligations to improve member security.
- The PPF? – the greatest risk to the PPF is the continual accrual of benefits for organisations who can’t afford to support them, resulting in a domino effect in the scheme, resulting in multiple insolvencies and therefore a requirement for PPF protection. Limiting accrual greatly limits this risk.
- The scheme? The Scheme needs to consider a number of factors. Would it improve the overall security of the Scheme by not allowing weak employers to continue to accrue additional benefits? We believe it would. Whilst the Scheme would not benefit from the immediate payment of the cessation debt (which most participants would not be able to pay anyway) would it be more likely to receive a greater proportion of the debt due from more employers? We believe it would as the debt could be paid off over affordable timescales and we believe that the money derived would be greater than that lost as a result of insolvency where there is likely to be a minimal recovery. From experience clear communication around this issue is vital and this could become a core element of scheme reporting.
- The employer? We believe that employers would be more committed to funding down their deficit if they could see a clear strategy to reduce it over time rather than a constantly growing unaffordable objective. Clear parameters could be set based upon affordability and employers in non associated MEDBPS would be on a consistent footing with other schemes.
- Other employers in the scheme? Employers who can afford to continue to accrue additional DB liabilities would be placed in a more secure position knowing that employers who were unable to take these risks were not being allowed to do so.
- Members of the scheme? The scheme covenant would be stronger so benefits would be better protected as only those who could afford the risk would be in a position to take it. Schemes would see future service contributions redirected to pay off past service debt thereby improving the finding position and overall member security.
- The PPF? As with members PPF security would be increased through higher deficit funding contributions and a stronger overall covenant.
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